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I actually think if technology is available

I actually think if technology is available, we need to use it, because it's like putting your head in the sand if you don't. The rest of society is using it in a variety of ways and we ignore it because we have this traditional approach to the game. So I think we need to use it, but I also think we need to recognize the limitations of technology. The reason there's a two-inch buffer on either side of the plate is because the technology is only good to about two or three inches. If it were perfect, we wouldn't have the two-inch buffers. I'm against robo-cops … er, robo-cops, robo-umpires …SHERMAN: I'm definitely against robo-cops. ALDERSON: I would allow managers to argue balls and strikes.SHERMAN: Cause the game isn't slow enough?ALDERSON: No, because the game isn't as entertaining as it could be.SABATHIA: Yeah.ALDERSON: The first manager I ever had was Billy Martin. And, he would put on a show like, weekly at least, in his discussions, arguments, confrontations with umpires. It was part of the theater of the game. We've lost that. I saw Joe Girardi try to do it the other day. It was an attempt. It was, it was Martin-like in ways, but our arguments are so harmless. They never lead to anything. But they're fun to watch. So, anyway, I would keep the umpires and I would actually allow managers to argue balls and strikes. Why? Because it's the only thing left to argue with replay, and I'm very much in favor of replay. I'd be surprised if the players didn't think "Yeah, we want to get the play right." You want the pitch right, called right, you want the play right. And, even if we lose because a call is overturned, as long as it was the right call, I'm all for that.SHERMAN: I do think one of the big issues of this game right now is: Is it an entertaining game in 2017? Is it slow moving Mike Hoffman Jersey, is it caught in a different generation, we're dealing with bat flips, et cetera. Kenny, what would you do to make the game more exciting? And, this is essentially a television question, right? They're kind of the masters both nationally and locally with places like YES that really supply the money in the game.Bryce HarperAPDAVIDOFF: Yeah, that's a great question, Joel. And I kinda think it ties into off-the-field stuff and —you guys can speak to this better than I can — but just promoting the game more, and it's so hard to promote baseball the way the NBA and NFL does, cause you guys play every day. You get the rare off day and we really appreciate you coming in, but I'm sure you just want to rest But the NBA plays three days a week, so LeBron can film his commercials and Curry, but I think that, actually, if you could make the personalities more compelling, I think that will kind of take care of the game itself.SHERMAN: Yeah, well, as CC knows, I talk to him about baseball like 40 percent of the time and the NBA 60 percent of the time. Like, Russell Westbrook could be a big star in Oklahoma City. The biggest star in our game is probably Mike Trout — he plays in Southern California, not L.A. I think you could walk down most streets and nobody would know who he is, everybody will know who Russell Westbrook is. What could be done to make players either more accessible, more popular, or make the game more popular?SABATHIA: Well, in the NBA, as far as commercials and stuff like that goes, the NBA, they use all their stars in the commercials: the kid commercials, the State Farm commercials. Everything that's like sponsors of the NBA are the big stars. So maybe if we get Mike Trout and some of our big sponsor commercials, those are national spots and more people will recognize him. I think as far as the game goes, as far as excitement, bat flips or WBC, the way people run out of the dugout on a home run — I love that. You know, it'd be hard to do that over 162, but I love the energy and excitement. This WBC this year was the most exciting by far because of the passion. And I think if we can get some of that back and people not flip out about bat flips, or guys pimping home runs or things like that. If I strike you out, and I want to yell or say something to my dugout, then you know, it's not showing you up, you know, it's just excitement and I think that we need that in the game, and I don't mind it at all.SHERMAN: Curtis, I'm wondering if you could piggyback on that Jean-Gabriel Pageau Jersey, because I think if we were doing a film for someone who plays the game "right," you would be in the documentary. You don't style, you don't do all this. You OK with the opposing team — you're standing in center field, somebody hits a homer, stares it down, flips the bat?GRANDERSON: Think about this: We all played at a young age, started at Tee-Ball, Little League. If you go to a Tee-Ball, Little League game, the kids are making noise, the whole game. It's OK. You get to high school, they get louder. You get to college, they get even louder. Then you get to pro ball and they tell you to stop doing all that. Can't come out, can't celebrate, can't do any of this, can't do any of that. But every level we played prior to that, you're able to do that. It's OK. We make noise, we cheer, we celebrate, we do all these great things when things go well. But then at the big league level, that's not the way it's supposed to be done. All of a sudden, it gets changed a little different. Not sure why that is, until you get out of the United States. You go to the Dominican and Venezuela and Japan, any of these other markets, again they celebrate when big things are happening, so why not continue to do that if that's a part of it? If you don't like it, if CC doesn't want the guy to bat flip then what is he gonna do? I'm gonna try to strike you out.SABATHIA: Yeah, strike 'em out. That's the quickest way to solve that problem.Is baseball doing enough to market its stars?SHERMAN: Sandy, I wonder if I could bring you back to promoting the game a little bit. Just as something interesting that caught my attention. So Time magazine does a thing every year on the 100 most influential people. Over the last 10 years, not one baseball player has been in the top 100. The only baseball person is Theo Epstein. The last time a baseball player was in it, 2007, and I could give everyone 1,000 guesses and they wouldn't come up with Chien Ming-Wang as the guy who was most influential. This is a list with people from individual sports — Serena Williams, but also you know, LeBron, Kevin Durant, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. Why isn't Curtis Granderson and CC Sabathia on this list?"ALDERSON: Well, first of all, I would distinguish influential from popular, OK? I mean, influential sounds like I got a former corporation and I have a clothing line, and I've got to do a bunch of other things. So, I can't really speak to that. On the other hand, what I really enjoy is diverse personalities. I think as some of the teams, I found the most interesting and the most memorable are the ones that had these diverse personalities. When we were in Oakland, we had Dennis Eckersley, Dave Stewart, Dave Parker, Canseco, McGwire — totally different, everybody had a different personality. Some were straight, "Hey, act like you've done it before," other guys really enjoyed themselves, Dennis Eckersley. And I think that, it's the counterpoint that these different personalities provide So I think what we have to do in the game is not stifle enthusiasm I think enthusiasm is infectious. It's what Grandy was talking about, at the Tee-Ball level. It's what keeps kids coming back, is that sense of enthusiasm and excitement and, to the extent that we stifle that I think that we do a disservice to the game. I go back to arguing with umpires: Hey why not? It's harmless. But it's part of, it's another sort of, signpost of the enthusiasm and passion that people have for the game.SABATHIA: I used to always tell him, we had a ballgame, man, "Pimp that a little bit." He'd always put his head down, I'm in the dugout, I'm excited just watching my teammate hit a homer. So I want to see it. I really do love and enjoy the passion of when guys get excited. Like with the walkoffs, if you watch walkoffs back in the day — I watched a highlight of Jete and everybody just slapping hands like, I want to be at the plate jumping around. We invest so much time, you become family and you're all pulling for one goal. You want to win and when you do it in exciting ways, you want to be excited.CONE: There's one thing we're kind of overlooking compared to other sports here, it's gotta be the shoes. You know, we have all these NBA players that are promoted by companies that are selling product. And you don't see a lot of kids walking down Fifth Avenue in spikes. There's just nothing to sell in terms of product.SHERMAN: Would you take out uniformity then? Would it be OK for a flashy player like Cespedes to wear like, he can wear whatever cleat he wants?SABATHIA: It'd be awesome.SHERMAN: Yeah, like you might not buy that in a cleat, but you would buy it in a sneaker.CONE: It's possible, but you're talking about major companies developing product lines and the cost associated with that. Yeah, is it potentially possible? Yes, it is. But as of now, NBA players have two agents. One for their shoe contract — which they make more on that —and then one for their salary-capped, limited, on-the-court salary.ALDERSON: You know, I think Major League Baseball recognizes this issue, and is becoming a lot more liberal in terms of uniform violations and things of that sort. A lot more special events, I know, with the Mets, we got these crazy socks now that show the New York skyline. You know, where did those come from? And where would they have been 10 years ago? They would've been in somebody's drawer and a bad idea.Performance-enhancing drugsSHERMAN: I wanted to talk about performance-enhancing drugs a little bit. The ability to go from 88 to 92 and 92 to 95, or hit a ball farther. You know … the testing is done more. There's 12,000 blood and urine tests being done in 2017, that's up